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		<title>Comment on Stages of Understanding by Davidya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davidya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Christian
Thanks for the feedback - always interesting to have other perspectives. And how others use terms. 

The terms I used were about understanding - the third flows from realization. But realization I use not as an understanding or experience but rather a becoming that leads to them. (as in Self realization)

I use revelation in the context of the revealing, experiences of higher reality. Certainly such experiences can bring one onto the path and seek a faith or understanding to relate to it. But the revelation I refer to here is more ongoing or permanent rather than a fleeting experience. Again, from a realization flows revelation. These are the doors that, once opened, stay open. 

Some people also equate seer with someone who sees the future. I use it to mean someone who sees the higher aspects of reality. Pre-universe values, for example, are perceived directly rather than being a belief or concept. It changes the dynamic from a philosophical debate to finding ways of describing what is. 

It&#039;s remarkable we communicate as much as we do given the variety in how we relate to terms. Science has put great effort into an agreement on the meaning of terminology. That has not come to spiritual circles yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Christian<br />
Thanks for the feedback &#8211; always interesting to have other perspectives. And how others use terms. </p>
<p>The terms I used were about understanding &#8211; the third flows from realization. But realization I use not as an understanding or experience but rather a becoming that leads to them. (as in Self realization)</p>
<p>I use revelation in the context of the revealing, experiences of higher reality. Certainly such experiences can bring one onto the path and seek a faith or understanding to relate to it. But the revelation I refer to here is more ongoing or permanent rather than a fleeting experience. Again, from a realization flows revelation. These are the doors that, once opened, stay open. </p>
<p>Some people also equate seer with someone who sees the future. I use it to mean someone who sees the higher aspects of reality. Pre-universe values, for example, are perceived directly rather than being a belief or concept. It changes the dynamic from a philosophical debate to finding ways of describing what is. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s remarkable we communicate as much as we do given the variety in how we relate to terms. Science has put great effort into an agreement on the meaning of terminology. That has not come to spiritual circles yet.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Celebrating Gratitude by Giving Challenge &#171; In 2 Deep</title>
		<link>http://in2deep.wordpress.com/2009/10/03/celebrating-gratitude/#comment-3570</link>
		<dc:creator>Giving Challenge &#171; In 2 Deep</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] There are a number of variations on this that can similarly trigger this OKness. Many faiths suggest tithing 10% Many people do service like volunteering or simply helping others, Altruism I mentioned Gratitude Week to end homelessness. [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Greatful by Giving Challenge &#171; In 2 Deep</title>
		<link>http://in2deep.wordpress.com/2008/04/29/greatful/#comment-3569</link>
		<dc:creator>Giving Challenge &#171; In 2 Deep</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Stages of&#160;Understanding    Giving&#160;Challenge November 5, 2009   I&#8217;ve spoken about Gratitude here a number of times. It was a key step in my own cleaning house. It is an excellent preparation [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Stages of Understanding by Christian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your understanding of the stages. But I would change the wording a very little.

State 1 is revelation, stage 3 is realization. Something can be revealed to another but one must realize it on their own.

Enjoy the day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your understanding of the stages. But I would change the wording a very little.</p>
<p>State 1 is revelation, stage 3 is realization. Something can be revealed to another but one must realize it on their own.</p>
<p>Enjoy the day!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Perspectives Overview by Stages of Understanding &#171; In 2 Deep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stages of Understanding &#171; In 2 Deep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] also worth noticing that this is also a fairly typical sequence of personal development. The Tribal keener tends to outgrow the box and become more Individual. Gradually, they have more [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] also worth noticing that this is also a fairly typical sequence of personal development. The Tribal keener tends to outgrow the box and become more Individual. Gradually, they have more [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Peace Warrior by Healing Intention &#171; In 2 Deep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Healing Intention &#171; In 2 Deep</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] written before about Adam, the Dreamhealer. He has recently launched a web site for just this &#8211; using intention and visualization in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] written before about Adam, the Dreamhealer. He has recently launched a web site for just this &#8211; using intention and visualization in [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Noble Intention by Healing Intention &#171; In 2 Deep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Healing Intention &#171; In 2 Deep</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...]    &#171; Guardians    Healing&#160;Intention November 4, 2009   Recently, I wrote about how Intention is key &#8211; practices like visualization are based on the creative drive or intention behind [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]    &laquo; Guardians    Healing&nbsp;Intention November 4, 2009   Recently, I wrote about how Intention is key &#8211; practices like visualization are based on the creative drive or intention behind [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Astonishing! by Davidya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davidya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 03:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. Same with ideas like trust and allowing. Really simple but hard because its not a familiar way of being when we&#039;ve been in the mind so long. 

Yes, it takes time and &#039;testing the waters&#039; to gradually let go and discover how much more fun life can be with the &#039;unlocked&#039; reality.  ;-)

Thanks for your thoughts, Kaushik</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. Same with ideas like trust and allowing. Really simple but hard because its not a familiar way of being when we&#8217;ve been in the mind so long. </p>
<p>Yes, it takes time and &#8216;testing the waters&#8217; to gradually let go and discover how much more fun life can be with the &#8216;unlocked&#8217; reality.  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks for your thoughts, Kaushik</p>
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		<title>Comment on Astonishing! by Kaushik &#124; beyond-karma.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaushik &#124; beyond-karma.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Acceptance is hard because we think acceptance is something we do, when it&#039;s really about the cessation of resistance.

I think with acceptance we are also afraid we are locking in a reality we don&#039;t like. It takes some experience with it to see the truth of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Acceptance is hard because we think acceptance is something we do, when it&#8217;s really about the cessation of resistance.</p>
<p>I think with acceptance we are also afraid we are locking in a reality we don&#8217;t like. It takes some experience with it to see the truth of it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Isha, Ishaya by Davidya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davidya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may wish to go deeper into your practice. It&#039;s unbecoming to publicly spam anger and resentment on every reference you find to her. Calling people names illustrates your own heart development. 

If you actually read the blog posts, you would find I talk about how the Ishayas broke apart and at some point, Isha split away from the group. This is not uncommon and as I mention, MSI did the same thing. 

I would also consider it respectful of the teaching that she has keep it intact. I&#039;ve met her a couple of times and she is doing good work. I would not say it&#039;s the highest teaching, but it is helping a lot of westerners connect with the heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may wish to go deeper into your practice. It&#8217;s unbecoming to publicly spam anger and resentment on every reference you find to her. Calling people names illustrates your own heart development. </p>
<p>If you actually read the blog posts, you would find I talk about how the Ishayas broke apart and at some point, Isha split away from the group. This is not uncommon and as I mention, MSI did the same thing. </p>
<p>I would also consider it respectful of the teaching that she has keep it intact. I&#8217;ve met her a couple of times and she is doing good work. I would not say it&#8217;s the highest teaching, but it is helping a lot of westerners connect with the heart.</p>
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