Comments on: How I learned to stop arguing with reality and pick up my children’s socks

By: Questions « In 2 Deep

Questions « In 2 Deep — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:32:51 +0000

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By: Davidya

Davidya — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 03:15:40 +0000

(I’m back for 2 days, then off to internet-less land…)

By: Davidya

Davidya — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 03:14:44 +0000

Thanks, Louise.
What you will find is the other planes are not really other at all but here and now. There is no difference between inner experience and outer, except that we segregate them mentally.

As for joy, its true we can better appreciate joy after experiencing pain. But if you experience full unadulterated joy, it will be by comparison to prior memories of joy. It will overshadow any idea of “happiness” you may ever have help before. Whats really remarkable is that it’s possible to get used to that joy as a constant presence. That is what is now happening for many, many people.

We live in a most remarkable time.

By: Louise

Louise — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 22:47:39 +0000

Don’t think I could fully understand the meaning of joy unless I had experienced its opposite. I feel gratitude for everything that has come to me in this life for it has strengthend my spirit. My meaning in the use of the term “plane” would be the place we find ourselves when we are “out of form,” no longer bond onto the Earth. Hope your time of rest is everything you hoped for, Davidya!

By: The Approach « In 2 Deep

The Approach « In 2 Deep — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:26:47 +0000

[...] The Approach July 3, 2008 This is in response to a comment by Louis over on “How i learned to stop…” She was uncertain about [...]

By: Davidya

Davidya — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:08:22 +0000

Suffering can help give us the push, yes. The point is that it’s optional, as “It can be easier” points out. Sometimes the suffering is just seeing it so it can be removed as an obstacle. It did not provide a push but rather was a needed step to clear.

This comment began to get rather long, so I’m going to do a short post in response.

I would not describe awakening as having anything to do with physical reality at first, just our experience of it. Also, I would not think about it as “other planes”. That places them somewhere else, a misleading concept. All of reality is right here, now.

By: Louise

Louise — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:05:35 +0000

I am in the process of awakening (cannot bring myself to proclaim I have awakened for I don’t think we fully do in this plane, some come closer than others, of course) and, for me, it came through suffering so I’m of the opinion I would not have come to this wonderful place of peace without the push from suffering.

By: It can be easier « In 2 Deep

It can be easier « In 2 Deep — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 05:00:26 +0000

[...] read that were filled with deep challenges. The link to an interview with Byron Katie over at Suffering is Optional, for example. It lead me to Suzanne Segal’s excerpt from her book “Collision with the [...]