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		<title>By: Davidya</title>
		<link>http://in2deep.wordpress.com/2008/04/11/mental-states/#comment-3678</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See
http://in2deep.wordpress.com/2008/04/12/finding-a-teacher-pt-3/
for a review of the issues with Hawkins approach. Hawkins scale was developed by Levenson at Sedona, where they use it appropriately to gauge emotional state. Hawkins however stretches the idea into territory where emotions are not a good gauge and then uses the whole thing to make judgments of self and other. This is both unhealthy and a trap.</description>
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for a review of the issues with Hawkins approach. Hawkins scale was developed by Levenson at Sedona, where they use it appropriately to gauge emotional state. Hawkins however stretches the idea into territory where emotions are not a good gauge and then uses the whole thing to make judgments of self and other. This is both unhealthy and a trap.</p>
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		<title>By: Below Fear &#171; In 2 Deep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Below Fear &#171; In 2 Deep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 09:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]    Below&#160;Fear December 9, 2009   Fear is an interesting emotion to look at. If you study emotional scales like Sedona&#8217;s or Hawkins*, you find emotions like apathy and shame lower (or darker) on the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]    Below&nbsp;Fear December 9, 2009   Fear is an interesting emotion to look at. If you study emotional scales like Sedona&#8217;s or Hawkins*, you find emotions like apathy and shame lower (or darker) on the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Davidya</title>
		<link>http://in2deep.wordpress.com/2008/04/11/mental-states/#comment-1270</link>
		<dc:creator>Davidya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jonathan. Thanks for the feedback. I&#039;ve seen a little bit of Genpo. I&#039;m a fan of Adyashanti, also arising from Zen, who talks practically and clearly on the awakening process. You may also find diad and inquiry useful exercises, something the Ramana people like Gangaji use.

Key tools for me have been an effortless meditation that connects me to source, learning to allow, gratitude as a practice, and simple observance of what comes up. 

Yes, at the moment, the various techniques are scattered and individuals are obliged to shop around and see what works for them.  

Ken Wilbur raises some big red flags for me. While he has some interesting ideas and has integrated diverse concepts, he also tries to shove things together that are not the same and discounts things that don&#039;t fit his model. As his model is not complete, that becomes a serious flaw. Like Hawkins, its missing the top end which inherently limits its potential. 

I&#039;ve found that only a few of the traditional paths see the higher levels of potential in full Unity - Zen, Tantra and Vedanta. Derivatives of these are the most likely to offer a clear vision of the path. 

Katie and Sedona I am only more recently aware of but others I respect speak well of them. Keep in mind though that both are for preparing. Awakening requires a deeper step. 

A surprise to me was Scheinfeld&#039;s Busting Loose from the Money Game. It actually has almost nothing to do with money. 

I explored Enneagram&#039;s a bit. Your points about the need for security and approval getting in the way of affluence are excellent. Your articles are extensive. Will have to browse your blog further. 

One tip - put the URL of your blog in the field for it on Comments pages. This gives people an easy link to your blog but also increases your visibility to search engines and social networks. Links are the way of the web...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jonathan. Thanks for the feedback. I&#8217;ve seen a little bit of Genpo. I&#8217;m a fan of Adyashanti, also arising from Zen, who talks practically and clearly on the awakening process. You may also find diad and inquiry useful exercises, something the Ramana people like Gangaji use.</p>
<p>Key tools for me have been an effortless meditation that connects me to source, learning to allow, gratitude as a practice, and simple observance of what comes up. </p>
<p>Yes, at the moment, the various techniques are scattered and individuals are obliged to shop around and see what works for them.  </p>
<p>Ken Wilbur raises some big red flags for me. While he has some interesting ideas and has integrated diverse concepts, he also tries to shove things together that are not the same and discounts things that don&#8217;t fit his model. As his model is not complete, that becomes a serious flaw. Like Hawkins, its missing the top end which inherently limits its potential. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve found that only a few of the traditional paths see the higher levels of potential in full Unity &#8211; Zen, Tantra and Vedanta. Derivatives of these are the most likely to offer a clear vision of the path. </p>
<p>Katie and Sedona I am only more recently aware of but others I respect speak well of them. Keep in mind though that both are for preparing. Awakening requires a deeper step. </p>
<p>A surprise to me was Scheinfeld&#8217;s Busting Loose from the Money Game. It actually has almost nothing to do with money. </p>
<p>I explored Enneagram&#8217;s a bit. Your points about the need for security and approval getting in the way of affluence are excellent. Your articles are extensive. Will have to browse your blog further. </p>
<p>One tip &#8211; put the URL of your blog in the field for it on Comments pages. This gives people an easy link to your blog but also increases your visibility to search engines and social networks. Links are the way of the web&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jryanhaber</title>
		<link>http://in2deep.wordpress.com/2008/04/11/mental-states/#comment-1256</link>
		<dc:creator>jryanhaber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 07:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting Post.  Thank you for outlining states of consciousness.  I would invite you to look into the work of Genpo Roshi, and the Big Mind Process.  The &quot;Big Mind&quot; Practice process is the only experiential process I have found for exploring both dualistic and non-dualistic states of consciousness in a group context.  

Also, please refer to my recent blog post for reflections on tools for the facilitation of shifts in consciousness and interdisciplinary perspectives on this.  

Accross the planet, gifted facilitators and visionaries create quite a following by applying insights from their personal explorations within states of consciousness, but there is not alot of work being done on the relationship between these movements.  

I understand Campbell has done some great work with this, I know that Ken Wilber has, and I want to learn more.  

Also, I enjoy looking at the fusion of various practices... the ones that have most deeply influenced me so far include those mentioned, the work of byron katie, the sedona method, the teachings of gay and kathleen hendricks, and genpo roshi&#039;s work. 

Also seeming to get a lot of attention right now is the individuals who are applying principles from these explorations to the areas of high demand in the self-help movement.  Financial Flow, Health, Relationship, and Sexuality are some examples, and the Sedona Method does a great job of applying non-linear perspectives to these hot topics in our society.  

Please check out my blog for more information, reflections, and practical applications of these tools, and please share your own experiences and understandings with me. 


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting Post.  Thank you for outlining states of consciousness.  I would invite you to look into the work of Genpo Roshi, and the Big Mind Process.  The &#8220;Big Mind&#8221; Practice process is the only experiential process I have found for exploring both dualistic and non-dualistic states of consciousness in a group context.  </p>
<p>Also, please refer to my recent blog post for reflections on tools for the facilitation of shifts in consciousness and interdisciplinary perspectives on this.  </p>
<p>Accross the planet, gifted facilitators and visionaries create quite a following by applying insights from their personal explorations within states of consciousness, but there is not alot of work being done on the relationship between these movements.  </p>
<p>I understand Campbell has done some great work with this, I know that Ken Wilber has, and I want to learn more.  </p>
<p>Also, I enjoy looking at the fusion of various practices&#8230; the ones that have most deeply influenced me so far include those mentioned, the work of byron katie, the sedona method, the teachings of gay and kathleen hendricks, and genpo roshi&#8217;s work. </p>
<p>Also seeming to get a lot of attention right now is the individuals who are applying principles from these explorations to the areas of high demand in the self-help movement.  Financial Flow, Health, Relationship, and Sexuality are some examples, and the Sedona Method does a great job of applying non-linear perspectives to these hot topics in our society.  </p>
<p>Please check out my blog for more information, reflections, and practical applications of these tools, and please share your own experiences and understandings with me. </p>
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<p>Jonathan Haber B.A. C.M.T.</p>
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		<title>By: Deep Memory &#171; In 2 Deep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deep Memory &#171; In 2 Deep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 05:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is inherent in nature”. This implies a broader idea of mind than &#8216;in the head&#8217;. In Mental States, I spoke of the values of mind as it expresses from open, through intuitive, process, intellect, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Good and Evil &#124; Open_Secrets</title>
		<link>http://in2deep.wordpress.com/2008/04/11/mental-states/#comment-235</link>
		<dc:creator>Good and Evil &#124; Open_Secrets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 15:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] being loved by and loving the Creator. A state of interior joy, consolation is characterized by a quiet mind and an open heart. One feels inspired, confident, courageous&#8230; held and supported by unseen [...]</description>
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